Classpect Information

Time

Dave, Aradia, Damara, and Caliborn are heroes of time.

Mallek, Skylla, and Marvus are also time-bound.

GA: Why Is It That When The Subject Of Temporal Mechanics Is Broached Your Sparing Human Intellects Instantly Assume The Most Ingratiating Posture Of Surrender Imaginable
GA: Time Is Not That Difficult To Understand
GA: It Is A Utility That A Universe May Resort To In Order To Advance A Desired Degree Of Complexity
GA: Or May Not Resort To If That Is The Case
GA: Its All Pretty Pedestrian
GA: But No
GA: When Time Travel Comes Up You Present The Face That A Man Shows When The Breeze Gradually Alerts Him To His Absence Of Netherdressings

TG: this whole operation is strung together with stable time loops
TG: no timeline offshoots cause thats when daves start dying and that isnt no good for nobody
EB: daves, plural?
TG: yeah
TG: there are a bunch of daves running around the timeline
EB: oh, man.
TG: but they are all me
TG: i mean they will all become me and ill become them one way or another
TG: thats how stable time loops work shit takes a lot of planning and precise choreography

TG: i guess im sorta used to it by now i dont think of hours going by the same way anymore
TG: i mean
TG: they are my hours but not everyone elses theyre kind of like private hours all to myself
TG: while everyone else is sort of in slow motion stuck in the thick of the alpha
GG: hmmmm...
GG: i dont know if i get that but ok!
TG: well yeah
TG: my thing is time yours is space
TG: pretty different things
TG: you GET things about space i dont
TG: or you will
GG: i will?
TG: yup

You got a pair of TIME TABLES!

Use these to travel through time. Which in the furthest ring, doesn't always mean much. Traveling back in time could also transport you millions of lightsweeps away. Probably better to just sell them to an eccentric billionaire.

DAVE: im serious
DAVE: the thing is
DAVE: being a time guy
DAVE: like actually MASTERING time travel
DAVE: im pretty sure what that involves is
DAVE: learning to never use it

.....

DAVE: but see with time travel
DAVE: all the stuff about learning it so you dont have to use it is true
DAVE: theres no good that can come of it
DAVE: you can crunch the logic on the loops all you want
DAVE: but all youre doing is painting yourself into a corner
DAVE: creating inevitabilities you have to rehearse and enact or face death for yourself or everyone you know
DAVE: and sometimes facing death is the very inevitability you have to rehearse
DAVE: and then you wait and wait knowing its coming and knowing it has to happen
DAVE: how do you think it made me feel when we were gathering up all those frogs
DAVE: and i knew the whole time in a little while you would have to watch me get shot
DAVE: but i couldnt say anything or it would mess it all up

CALLIOPE: a dead session is an impossible time challenge.
CALLIOPE: the planets detonate sooner and sooner, one by one. it is a trial designed to be unwinnable.
CALLIOPE: a muse of space could never solve it. but a lord of time could, with relentless perseverence.
CALLIOPE: it could only be him.
CALLIOPE: my brother?
CALLIOPE: yes.
CALLIOPE: i was never meant to rise to the place he holds because the game was rigged.
CALLIOPE: tilted in favor of his aspect.

CALLIOPE: the correlation between the passage of time in the furthest ring and any given physical location is tenuous.

CALLIOPE: the measurement of time here is inseparable from the physical passage through its knotted space.

CALLIOPE: those two aspects are closely woven together here, to such an extent that they are barely separable.

CALLIOPE: all aspects are.

Those bound to the aspect of Time are fighters, full stop. Their lives are often marked by struggle, not so much because fate has it in for them, but because they are fundamentally incapable of just accepting things as they come. They value action over passive acceptance, even if that may not be the wisest or safest choice. Don't try to tell a Time-bound to sit still and look pretty. They are very goal-focused, and tend to value the destination over the journey, and you won't find them making that journey in any traditional sort of way. To quote cheesy posters found on many a guidance counselor's wall-"impossible is just a word". If you need a miracle, they are who you call. At their best, the Time-bound are empathetic and relentless problem-solvers. At their worst they are ruthless, defensive, and impulsive.

It's probably appropriate this narrative volatility announces itself with the introduction of our Knight of Time, a guy whose icon ultimately turns out to be a broken record, which, in the iconic language of HS myth, is a symbol that embodies fragmented timeline and splintered narrative.

Dave is doing all these cool time-attack tricks. Hopping forward and backward in time, but only by a little to keep the maneuvers simple. Each time he does, he's creating a little stable time loop he has to account for. Good practice for a Knight of Time.

His denizen, Hephaestus, is a legendary blacksmith, and his planet is a realm of clockwork, tailor-made for a Time Hero.

Here we also zip to the future to check out Aradia's land, and learn of her Maid of Time designation. Quartz and Melody correlate with her Time aspect. Quartz is used in clocks. As for melody, there are giant music box pieces everywhere, probably always turning their great brass columns, churning out creepy melodies that reverberate throughout the land. There's a little music box in her hive ruins there, which she's probably had for a long time. A little clue about destiny for her younger self to consider.

Karkat is far from being a master of time. If anything, he may actually be sort of a numbskull with regard to the aspect. But since he's charging blindly into this mad quest which by its nature involves so many time shenanigans, it kind of forces him to be introspective and sometimes actually a bit insightful about the nature of time. He has to think about what the future really means. It's "kind of a wide open thing," happening in a few years or a few minutes. When you start seeing future versions of other people and yourself as legitimately different, discretely isolated personas, it conjures certain philosophical problems, which he's constantly grappling with. The further the future is from the present, the more distinct that separate version of a person is. Ideas like this, and Karkat's unabashed floundering with them, start threading into bigger themes of the story, such as, what is a person, and what constitutes the "self"? Is it an ideal? A composite of ideals? The result of a composite of ideals and a set of specific choices? Clearer understanding of a single aspect, Time, actually starts deepening one's understanding of the concept of self. Does greater understanding of other aspects allow this as well? The story answers this later on.

The rest of it here involves some discourse on the Mind aspect, which a lot of this conversation has been about already. They also cover some of the challenges associated with the Time aspect, which appear to be closely related to issues of Mind.

Space

Jade, Kanaya, Porrim, and Calliope are heroes of space.

Tagora and Remele are also space-bound.

KANAYA: I Think It Can Only Be Positive To Feel A Deep Affinity For Ones Aspect

KANAYA: Better Than Being At Odds With It

KANAYA: I Never Felt Like I Had Much To Do With Space

KANAYA: Until Eventually

KANAYA: I Somehow Came To Understand Space Meant More Than Just Space

KANAYA: Like Not Just

KANAYA: Physical Room And Dimension For Stars To Occupy

KANAYA: Its

KANAYA: Deeper Than That

KANAYA: A Field Related To Propagation

KANAYA: The Ones Who Create It

KANAYA: They Are Passing A Torch As It Were

ROXY: i think space is related to this in some abstract way i cant put my finger on

ROXY: i gotta make this egg see?

CALLIOPE: :U

ROXY: but it isnt really just an egg its this HELLA complicated egg in both its biological design and everything it represents for the future of an entire civilization

ROXY: and i dont have the genetic or chemical or molecular blueprints for it or anything

ROXY: i have to figure it out using... just thought

.....

ROXY: its like a funky little construct of biological propagation

ROXY: and i think that intersects with the nature of space

ROXY: at least as we have come to understand it

ROXY: the propagation of space is really just some profound cosmological feat of reproduction

ROXY: that is... a literally biological process right?

CALLIOPE: pretty mUch.

JADE: argh

JADE: sorry

JADE: this time stuff is really confusing

CALLIOPE: you're a space player.

JADE: yeah

CALLIOPE: you have already proven your heroism in the moments when it was needed most.

CALLIOPE: it is important to know when the greatest good is best served by remaining dormant.

CALLIOPE: whether that burden is for close to eternity, or only a few more minutes.

CALLIOPE: it is something to learn as a space player.

CALLIOPE: space falls back. it yields. hosts the play silently.

CALLIOPE: then, it roars to life when its time comes, showing all who is really the master.

CALLIOPE: and so too when the time comes, it collapses in on itself, taking all else with it.

Those bound to the aspect of Space are, as the name suggests, concerned with the big picture. They are patient, masters of the art of 'wait-and-see', and are inclined to take things as they come. That isn't to say that they're pushovers or willing to let injustice lie-they just choose their battles wisely, understanding that sometimes you have to let something burn to the ground in order to build it back better and stronger than before. To this effect, they tend to be innovators, concerned with creation and redemption. Catch them recycling the old to make the new, the fresh, and the beautiful. For the Space-bound, the journey is as, if not more, important than the destination; how they do something is as important as what they do. At their best, they are steady, impartial, and creative. At their worst, they can be detached, apathetic, and vague.

Heart

Dirk, Nepeta, and Meulin are heroes of heart.

Tirona, Boldir, and Fozzer are also heart-bound.

TT: Roxy has it easy. All floating off into space, completely oblivious to any danger.

TT: I don't know why it had to be this way for me. Juggling these two waking selves at once.

TT: I guess I'm used to it, but it still makes for a pretty intense existence.

TT: Do you even know what the deal with that is? Like is there any precedent in your readings?

UU: i don't know aboUt precedent, bUt it makes plenty of sense to me as the type of path one might expect for a hero of heart.

UU: a path rUled by the heart aspect can be a joUrney of splintered self.

UU: that is, the player's being may exhibit the same kind of fragmentation which certain classes coUld caUse in others.

UU: i think this is what has triggered yoUr dUal-awareness between waking and dream selves, thoUgh it woUld not sUrprise me if the symptoms manifested in even more ways than this.

TT: So, that's what a Prince of Heart does?

TT: Just has like, multiple waking consciousness disorder, or something?

TT: Sounds kind of stupid.

UU: no!

UU: like i said, these can be traits of sUch a hero, bUt is not necessarily always the case, nor is it the defining property of the aspect.

UU: to Understand the heart aspect better, yoU might Use it interchangeably with the word soUl.

UU: the hero Uses the methods endowed by class to inflUence in some way the soUl, or essence of being, of oneself or of others.

TT: Then I'm basically the Prince of Soul.

UU: yes.

Those bound to the aspect of Heart are very concerned with their favorite subject: themselves. It wouldn't be a stretch to call them 'self-obsessed', but not necessarily in a negative way. They simply want to understand the one thing we all are stuck with for our entire lives, i.e. our own minds. Forging an identity is extremely important to the Heart-bound, and every decision and action goes toward building a coherent narrative of their own story. That isn't to say Heart-bound don't care deeply for their friends and allies; they just have a tendency to assume that everyone is as concerned with identity as they are. They are excellent at putting on and taking off masks as the situation calls for them. At their best, they are competent, imaginative, and steady. At their worst they can be overbearing, inflexible, and cold.

Mind

Terezi and Latula are heroes of mind.

Amisia, Vikare, Chixie, Azdaja, and Karako are also mind-bound.

Those bound to the aspect of Mind are-you guessed it-the universe's great thinkers. But don't for a second think that means that they have all the answers. They are very concerned with remaining rational, and they have such a firm hold on the constant conjunction of their thinking that it's easy for them to see the multitudes of the choices laid out before them, which often leaves them frozen and unable to act. That said, when a Mind-bound finally launches into action, they can execute a plan with unbelievable grace and precision. Their identity is fluid-it can change from day-to-day, from thought-to-thought, from interaction-to-interaction. Remaining logical is more important to them than building up a solid foundation of "self." At their best they are great innovators, architects, and creators. At their worst they can be nasty, inflexible, and indecisive..

The rest of it here involves some discourse on the Mind aspect, which a lot of this conversation has been about already. They also cover some of the challenges associated with the Time aspect, which appear to be closely related to issues of Mind.

Hope

Jake, Eridan, and Cronus are heroes of hope.

Diemen, Daraya, Chahut, Kuprum, Elwurd, and Cirava are also hope-bound.

Those bound to the aspect of Hope are driven first and foremost by their convictions. They do right for right's sake, and are quick to come to the aid of anyone they deem to be experiencing injustice. That said, their views of the world can be quite black and white, so what they see as the "right" thing may not always be the universally accepted view. They put great value in the power of the imagination, the ability to dream up a better and more beautiful future. If anyone could dream a better world into existence, it would be one of the Hope-bound. They may sound like all sunshine and rainbows, but they aren't adverse to a little destruction, especially if they think they can replace it with something better and more just. At their best, Hope-bound are positive, caring, and warm. At their worst they can be narrow-minded and selfish.

Rage

Gamzee and Kurloz are heroes of rage.

Charun, Nihkee, and Lynera are also rage-bound.

Those bound to the aspect of Rage are bringers of chaos. They posses great contempt for lies or false ideas, including the stability that false ideas can impart. To them, the true is far more important than the good; they would tear down a system just to destabilize it if, by their reckoning, it is built on faulty premises. Often the Rage-bound prefer anarchy to any of the alternate forms of civilization, which they believe to be riddled with lies and foolishness and obedient masses. They are bringers of confusion and doubt, and they can be frustratingly difficult to convince otherwise when they have attached themselves to an idea. If they sound dangerous, they are. The Rage-bound tend to be most volatile and unpredictable of the aspects. At their best they are original, revolutionary, and fearless. At their worst they are cruel, uncompromising, and vicious.

Light

Rose, Vriska, and Aranea are heroes of light.

Zebede and Konyyl are also light-bound.

Those bound to the aspect of Light are the universe's knowledge-seekers. They are, above all, driven to learn and understand. They are great alchemists, able to take multiple sources of information and synthesize them into something useful. They are scholars and researchers, absolutely dedicated to knowledge for knowledge's sake. They are the ultimate students, and although that might conjure up the image of people sitting around peacefully waiting for knowledge to be brought to them, that couldn't be further from the truth. The Light-bound will go after knowledge with a fierce intensity that others may find distasteful. They aren't overly concerned with laws or norms, either. They often take rules as simple suggestions, instead searching for loopholes or work-arounds. At their best, the Light-bound are resourceful and driven. At their worst they can be fussy, pedantic, and insensitive.

Void

Roxy, Equius, and Horuss are heroes of void.

Folykl, Tegiri, and Marsti are also void-bound.

UU: and i can't say i know a smashing good deal aboUt the natUre of the void player's path, since the aspect is by definition inscrUtable to those it does not choose.

You never understood what the point of this thing was. It's old and damaged. Whatever is supposed to show up on the screens is blacked out, either due to the damage, or due to this voidey blackout bullshit that seems to follow you wherever you go.

JADE: imagine that your title is roughly synonymous with "one who steals nothing"

JADE: what do you think it means to be able to steal nothing?

ROXY: it means

ROXY: im like a shitty cat burglar who sucks at her job?

JADE: WRONG

JADE: it means just the opposite

JADE: it means you can steal the essence of nothingness from something

JADE: you can rob nothingness from an idea if you put your mind to it

JADE: effectively allowing you to conjure virtually anything out of thin air

ROXY: i think space is related to this in some abstract way i cant put my finger on

ROXY: i gotta make this egg see?

CALLIOPE: :U

ROXY: but it isnt really just an egg its this HELLA complicated egg in both its biological design and everything it represents for the future of an entire civilization

ROXY: and i dont have the genetic or chemical or molecular blueprints for it or anything

ROXY: i have to figure it out using... just thought

ROXY: like, ideas

ROXY: ideas that are really basic and live in this primordial sorta quasi-consciousness

ROXY: so i have to build the idea of this egg in some way before i do anything

ROXY: which means trying to grasp its reality and what it represents

ROXY: its like a funky little construct of biological propagation

ROXY: and i think that intersects with the nature of space

ROXY: at least as we have come to understand it

ROXY: the propagation of space is really just some profound cosmological feat of reproduction

ROXY: that is... a literally biological process right?

CALLIOPE: pretty mUch.

ROXY: so to make this egg

ROXY: as a rogue of void what im really doing here is something kind of insane

ROXY: you yourself told me once how id be able to do this crazy shit!

CALLIOPE: i did!

ROXY: ill be like... probing nothingness for an idea

ROXY: a pretty complicated idea in this case

ROXY: and

ROXY: pulling that idea from unreality

ROXY: so maybe if im right and a closer connection to the nature of space will help me locate that idea...

ROXY: almost like

ROXY: standing next to an antenna to boost the signal of that idea

ROXY: then maybe my chances will be better

ROXY: and hey

ROXY: even if not

ROXY: its just nice to have a friend nearby while u try to do something hard

CALLIOPE: ^u^

Those bound to the aspect of Void are the universe's secret-keepers. The unknown doesn't scare them-where others might see emptiness, they see potential. A blank page, an empty canvas, that's what the Void-bound live for. They value mystery and the unexplained, and are not particularly bothered by not having all the answers. Where others might be compelled to go out and seek answers, the Void-bound lean more toward casting doubt on what is already considered fully understood. They don't take much on faith and would rather live in a state of confusion than believe something that might be untrue or bow to intellectual authority. After all, in order for something new to be built, the old, rotting foundation must often be razed. At their best, Void-bound are wise, intuitive, and vibrant. At their worst they can be dismissive, indecisive, and apathetic.

A few characters have multiple allocations naturally, like Equius. Roxy is another player who has fistkind, and she also happens to be a Void player like him. Is there something to be said for Void players being naturally inclined toward fighting empty-handed? Whoops, I just made Homestuck scholars around the world throw years of research in the trash.

Breath

John, Tavros, and Rufioh are heroes of breath.

Barzum, Polypa, and Bronya are also breath-bound.

Those bound to the aspect of Breath are, above all, expansive. Flexible and driven, they leave an impact wherever they go. Like the breeze itself, they are able to sweep others up to carry along in their wake, but also like the breeze, they can be difficult to catch hold of or tie down. Although Breath-bound do make very good leaders, breath tends to be a very personal aspect. Often, heroism comes along as an offshoot of them pursuing their own personal stories. They lead by example, and will routinely be surprised that others look up to or feel inspired by them. They have a tendency to underestimate themselves, and not always out of poor self-esteem. They were just doing their own thing. At their best Breath-bound are motivated, adaptable, and forward thinking, but at their worst they can be volatile, avoidant, and gullible.

Blood

Karkat and Kankri are heroes of blood.

Tyzias, Galekh, and Stelsa are also blood-bound.

KARKAT: YEAH, AT FIRST, I THOUGHT BLOOD JUST MEANT LIKE...

KARKAT: SOMETHING ABOUT BEING A WARRIOR! OR BEING COMPLETELY RUTHLESS TO ANYONE STANDING IN THE WAY OF VICTORY.

KARKAT: BUT AS MORE TIME PASSED

KARKAT: I REALIZED THERE WAS PROBABLY A LOT MORE TO IT.

KARKAT: AND I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND.

KARKAT: MAYBE I NEVER WILL.

Those bound to the aspect of Blood draw their strength from bonds, from the trust and camaraderie that blooms among a group of people who all share a single vision. Blood-bound are absolutely leaders, but they inhabit more of an inspirational role than a commanding one. They are prophets, rather than generals, giving others the strength and motivation to keep fighting. The Blood-bound can dispense excellent advice even when their own lives and interpersonal relationships are disasters. They can be very "do as I say, not as I do" types. A Blood-bound can often be found on a sinking ship, forcing an endeavor forward with sheer stubborn force of will. No matter how bad things go, a Blood-bound can always count on friends and allies. At their best, they are charismatic, uplifting, and magnetic. At their worst they can be sullen, unkind, and set-in-their-ways.

Life

Jane, Feferi, and Meenah are heroes of life.

Lanque is also life-bound.

Those bound to the aspect of Life are the universe's healers. They are concerned with the betterment of themselves and those around them, as well as the onward march of positive progress. Deeply empathetic, they have an intuitive understanding of other's suffering and the best way of righting those wrongs. If you're poisoned, chances are the Life-bound have something for what ails ya. This applies to both physical and mental suffering, though it might not be a cure you'll like. They also have the tendency to put other's needs before their own, which never ends well for anyone, because the Life-bound can grow bitter if they feel their own self-care has had to be shunted aside. At their best, they are great listeners, caretakers, and nurturers. At their worst, the Life-bound are passive aggressive, and pushy-they're certain they know best.

Doom

Sollux and Mituna are heroes of doom.

Ardata, Wanshi, Zebruh, and Baizli are also doom-bound.

Those bound to the aspect of Doom are fate's chosen sufferers. It may not sound like an overly pleasant aspect to be aligned with, but it does come along with great wisdom and empathy. The Doom-bound understand that misery loves company, and they are ready and willing to provide said company. The Doom-bound won't fix you; they aren't healers. They are commiserators, aware that sometimes the only thing you can do for a person is let them know that they are not alone in their suffering. They are not the advice friend-they're the friend you go to when you need to vent about a rough day at work. They are not necessarily noble martyrs, either-the Doom-bound can become quite irate about their lot. At their best they are wise, kind, and non-judgemental. At their worst, bitter, resentful, and fatalistic.

Maid

Jane, Aradia, and Porrim are maids.

STUB

Slyph

Kanaya and Aranea are sylphs.

GA: I Was A Sylph Not A Witch

GG: oh

GG: what is a sylph?

GA: I Think Its Sort Of Like A Witch

GA: But More Magical

GG: a magical witch???

GA: Yes Im Completely Certain Of That Suddenly

GG: thats awesome

Thief

Vriska and Meenah are thieves.

UU: while a rogUe is passive, a thief woUld be its far more active coUnterpart.

UU: the rogUe and thief classes tend to be assigned to females. not exclUsively, bUt commonly!

.....

UU: that's a bit of a tangent thoUgh. to answer yoUr qUestion aboUt being a rogUe, i shoUld tell yoU both classes in +/- pairs tend to have very similar descriptions.

UU: in this case, a rogUe or a thief is "one who steals." qUite simple, really!

UU: bUt whether the class is + or - makes all the difference. it is a great indicator as to how a hero will make Use of the aspect.

Rogue

Roxy, Nepeta, and Rufioh are rogues.

UU: a rogUe is a passive class. yoU see, there are passive (+) and active (-) classes. some more strongly passive or active than others.

UU: the +/- distinction can mean many things, bUt coUld be qUite roUghly sUmmed Up in this way: active classes exploit their aspect to benefit themselves, while passive classes allow their aspect to benefit others.

.....

UU: the rogUe and thief classes tend to be assigned to females. not exclUsively, bUt commonly!

.....

UU: that's a bit of a tangent thoUgh. to answer yoUr qUestion aboUt being a rogUe, i shoUld tell yoU both classes in +/- pairs tend to have very similar descriptions.

UU: in this case, a rogUe or a thief is "one who steals." qUite simple, really!

UU: bUt whether the class is + or - makes all the difference. it is a great indicator as to how a hero will make Use of the aspect.

HORUSS: 8=D < It's true. I am not ashamed to say it. I fell mane over hooves. Phantom snout over phantom hind quarters. He...

HORUSS: 8=D < He stole my breath away.

#With but a roguish glance.

(Horuss is refering to Rufioh.)

JADE: imagine that your title is roughly synonymous with "one who steals nothing"

JADE: what do you think it means to be able to steal nothing?

ROXY: it means

ROXY: im like a shitty cat burglar who sucks at her job?

JADE: WRONG

JADE: it means just the opposite

JADE: it means you can steal the essence of nothingness from something

JADE: you can rob nothingness from an idea if you put your mind to it

JADE: effectively allowing you to conjure virtually anything out of thin air

Witch

Jade, Feferi, and Damara are witches.

STUB

Heir

John, Equius, and Mituna are heirs.

STUB

Mage

Sollux and Meulin are mages.

STUB

Seer

Rose, Terezi, and Kankri are seers.

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ARADIA: rose is the one who must play the role of the strategist

ARADIA: the seer class knows her aspect comprehensively

ARADIA: as a knower of all fortune she can see the circuitous path that will lead to the most favorable outcome for everyone

Page

Jake, Tavros, and Horuss are pages.

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AA: y0u picked a t0ugh class tavr0s!

AA: n0ne 0f the really useful c0mbat abilities c0me int0 play until y0u reach a very high level

AA: but i supp0se it will be rewarding when y0u get there

AT: yEAH, i THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, bUT,

AT: iT'S THE CLASS i THINK IS MOST FUN, aND, bATTLE SKILL IS NOT ALL THERE IS,

AT: tO BEING A GREAT ADVENTURER,

Knight

Dave, Karkat, and Latula are knights.

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ARADIA: no need to be so modest dave

ARADIA: the knight of time is not necessarily the tactician

ARADIA: he is a powerful warrior class which exploits the flow of time as a weapon

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He's like the James Bond of horsing around with weaponized time travel, is the message being conveyed here.

Prince

Eridan and Kurloz are princes.

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TT: Then what am I supposed to be able to do as a Prince? Like, rule over souls in a pompous, regal manner?

UU: no!

UU: again, sUrface meaning of classes and aspects can be deceptive.

UU: a prince is a destroyer class.

UU: it is very far on the active side of the scale. its more passive coUnterpart woUld be the bard class. both of these are exclUsively designated for male players.

UU: to Understand a hero's capabilities, it always helps to search for the right way to parse the class/aspect pair into a more explicit statement.

UU: for instance, being active, a prince coUld be viewed as "one who destroys x, or caUses destrUction throUgh x," if x is the aspect.

UU: while the more passive bard coUld be seen as "one who allows x to be destroyed, or invites destrUction throUgh x," as if by the will of the aspect.

.....

TT: So if I'm following, my title nearly parses as,

TT: Destroyer of Souls.

UU: indeed.

Bard

Gamzee and Cronus are bards.

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UU: a prince is a destroyer class.

UU: it is very far on the active side of the scale. its more passive coUnterpart woUld be the bard class. both of these are exclUsively designated for male players.

UU: to Understand a hero's capabilities, it always helps to search for the right way to parse the class/aspect pair into a more explicit statement.

UU: for instance, being active, a prince coUld be viewed as "one who destroys x, or caUses destrUction throUgh x," if x is the aspect.

UU: while the more passive bard coUld be seen as "one who allows x to be destroyed, or invites destrUction throUgh x," as if by the will of the aspect.

TT: I'm obviously no expert, but that sounds like a pretty odd thing for a Bard to do.

UU: maybe! it's a qUirky class.

UU: somewhat like a wildcard role for a hero. very Unpredictable.

UU: they are typically known for their spontaneoUs and dramatic story-altering inflUence on the fate of a party.

UU: some of the more remarkable tales involve sUch parties, where the bard is single handedly responsible for their spectacUlar downfall or improbable victory. or both!

UU: in trUth, yoU are probably fortUnate yoUr groUp doesn't have one. :u

TT: I think we have enough unpredictability as it is.

Lord

Caliborn is a lord.

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Muse

Calliope is a muse.

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UU: other classes lean more toward male assignment, while others are exclUsively male, and jUst as many are exclUsively female. like my class. ^u^

Kanaya's Theory

FCG: HELL YOU PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN A BETTER MAID OF TIME THAN THE ONE WE WERE STUCK WITH.

FCG: SHE'S COMPLETELY SHITHIVE MAGGOTS, DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED.

CGA: I Think We Are Given Roles To Challenge Us

CGA: That Dont Necessarily Suit Our Strengths

CGA: At Least I Was

CGA: I Have No Idea What Im Doing Here

Passive/Active

UU: a rogUe is a passive class. yoU see, there are passive (+) and active (-) classes. some more strongly passive or active than others.

UU: the +/- distinction can mean many things, bUt coUld be qUite roUghly sUmmed Up in this way: active classes exploit their aspect to benefit themselves, while passive classes allow their aspect to benefit others.

UU: bUt of coUrse there's plenty more to it, and that rUle is in no way absolUte. only a starting point for Understanding the dichotomy.

TG: you mean kinda like

TG: offensive vs defesive magic in an rpg

UU: sUre!

UU: that's another fine way of looking at it.

UU: classes always come in +/- pairs, with significant disparity between them.

UU: while a rogUe is passive, a thief woUld be its far more active coUnterpart.

UU: the rogUe and thief classes tend to be assigned to females. not exclUsively, bUt commonly!

UU: other classes lean more toward male assignment, while others are exclUsively male, and jUst as many are exclUsively female. like my class. ^u^

UU: that's a bit of a tangent thoUgh. to answer yoUr qUestion aboUt being a rogUe, i shoUld tell yoU both classes in +/- pairs tend to have very similar descriptions.

UU: in this case, a rogUe or a thief is "one who steals." qUite simple, really!

UU: bUt whether the class is + or - makes all the difference. it is a great indicator as to how a hero will make Use of the aspect.

Gendered Classes

UU: the rogUe and thief classes tend to be assigned to females. not exclUsively, bUt commonly!

UU: other classes lean more toward male assignment, while others are exclUsively male, and jUst as many are exclUsively female. like my class. ^u^

UU: a prince is a destroyer class.

UU: it is very far on the active side of the scale. its more passive coUnterpart woUld be the bard class. both of these are exclUsively designated for male players.

@andrewhussie is it possible to make a female character a prince of ____?

@Iceymayvilkas sure

Unsorted information

TT: But now I know for sure Dave isn't behind this plan.

TT: It's too complicated.

GA: I Dont Understand

GA: Who Better To Coordinate Such Events Than The Knight Of Time

TT: It still seems hasty to me.

TT: Maybe I'm just not as comfortable with time travel as you.

TG: nah itll be fine dont worry

.....

TG: the thing with time travel is

TG: you cant overthink it

TG: just roll with it and see what happens

TG: and above all try not to do anything retarded

JADE: the fact is youre going to have to rely on those powers if you want to stand any chance against a lord of time

JADE: it is safe to expect he can only be challenged by someone with a similar command over the aspect

DAVE: why is that safe to expect

DAVE: where are all these presumptions coming from

CALLIOPE: the measurement of time here is inseparable from the physical passage through its knotted space.

CALLIOPE: those two aspects are closely woven together here, to such an extent that they are barely separable.

CALLIOPE: all aspects are.

JADE: really?

JADE: all of them??

CALLIOPE: yes.

JADE: i understand how this place has time and space of course.... even if they work together weirdly

JADE: but

JADE: i dont see any of the others

CALLIOPE: one doesn't see abstractions.

CALLIOPE: not directly.

JADE: ...

JADE: oh

CALLIOPE: each opposing pair is in balance throughout this field so as to form a stable canvas.

CALLIOPE: though the canvas becomes less stable with each crack in the field, ordinarily one would never directly observe its constituent forces.

CALLIOPE: the canvas would seem smooth from afar, but up close, as it were, the tapestry is circuitously woven.

CALLIOPE: the aspects, while remaining in balance, interfere with each other. they interlock and intertwine.

CALLIOPE: so neither space nor time functions linearly, nor are they conventionally measurable.

JADE: wow

JADE: i am not sure i totally understand...

JADE: but that is pretty interesting!

CALLIOPE: you are predisposed to find the nuances of space intriguing.

CALLIOPE: and since its opposing aspect is more related than you perhaps have realized, the challenges of understanding it are more compelling to you than you realize as well.

JADE: yeah i guess so

JADE: physics are all about space and time and such which are fun to think about

JADE: i like all that stuff!

CALLIOPE: yes.

JADE: so youre saying space and time... and all other aspects i guess... are more closely related here than in like

JADE: umm...

JADE: more stable places, like my universe?

CALLIOPE: they are less distinct from each other here, yes.

JADE: you said passage of time is inseparable from...

JADE: traveling through space?

CALLIOPE: yes.

JADE: so if we were holding still

JADE: time wouldnt be moving either?

CALLIOPE: that is correct, in a way.

CALLIOPE: though motion itself is not the absolute process it is in a more conventional medium.

CALLIOPE: the measurement of motion requires stable features for comparison.

CALLIOPE: of which there are very few in the furthest ring, typically.

CALLIOPE: the more cracks that appear, ironically, the more the ring begins to stabilize, at least in a spatial and temporal sense.

JOHN: oh yeah.
JOHN: what are these visions you’re having?
ROSE: I’m a Seer of Light, John.
JOHN: i know.
JOHN: so you mean like, your standard psychic visions about the future and stuff?
JOHN: what’s going to happen? should we be worried?
ROSE: It doesn’t technically pertain to the future. Well, not our future.
ROSE: My abilities have broadened considerably beyond their previous horizon. They shed light on many unseen events. Past, present,future, inrealities and frames of reference that have no intersection with ours at all.
ROSE: It seems to be an unfortunate side effect of god tier abilities. They can advance at a rate beyond one’s physical ability to keep up with
ROSE: Fortunately it doesn’t seem to be happening to anyone other than me.
JOHN: yeah, can’t say i’ve noticed anything like that.
JOHN: or improvement in my powers for that matter.
ROSE: It’s not about gaining additional power, so much as the gradual dissolving of the boundaries between your own awarenessand that of your many doomed selves who perished in other timelines.
ROSE: It’s a slow and apparently rather uncomfortable accretion of knowledge. Perhaps I’m the only one to notice any change, since my aspectexplicitly relates to knowledge.